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Israel Cause Anti-Semitism
By Uriel Heilman
Jewish Telegraphic Agency
11-8-3
NEW YORK (JTA) -- It's not often that George Soros, the billionaire financier and philanthropist, makes an appearance before a Jewish audience.
 
Itís even rarer for him to use such an occasion to talk about Israel, Jews and his own role in effecting political change.
 
So, when Soros stepped to the podium Wednesday to address those issues at a conference of the Jewish Funders Network, audience members were listening carefully.
 
Many were surprised by what they heard.
 
When asked about anti-Semitism in Europe, Soros, who is Jewish, said European anti-Semitism is the result of the policies of Israel and the United States.
 
"There is a resurgence of anti-Semitism in Europe. The policies of the Bush administration and the Sharon administration contribute to that," Soros said."It's not specifically anti-Semitism, but it does manifest itself in anti-Semitism as well. I'm critical of those policies."
 
"If we change that direction, then anti-Semitism also will diminish," he said."I can't see how one could confront it directly."
 
That is a point made by Israelís most vociferous critics, whom some Jewish activists charge with using anti-Zionism as a guise for anti-Semitism.
 
The billionaire financier said he, too, bears some responsibility for the new anti-Semitism, citing last month's speech by Malaysia's outgoing prime minister, Mahathir Mohammad, who said,"Jews rule the world by proxy."
 
"I'm also very concerned about my own role because the new anti-Semitism holds that the Jews rule the world," said Soros, whose projects and funding have influenced governments and promoted various political causes around the world.
 
"As an unintended consequence of my actions," he said,"I also contribute to that image."
 
After the conference, some Jewish leaders who heard about the speech reacted angrily to Soros' remarks.
 
"Let's understand things clearly: Anti-Semitism is not caused by Jews; it's caused by anti-Semites," said Elan Steinberg, senior advisor at the World Jewish Congress."One can certainly be critical of Bush policy or Sharon policy, but any deviation from the understanding of the real cause of anti-Semitism is not merely a disservice, but a historic lie."
 
Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, called Sorosí comments"absolutely obscene."
 
"He buys into the stereotype," Foxman said."It's a simplistic, counterproductive, biased and bigoted perception of what's out there. It's blaming the victim for all of Israelís and the Jewish people's ills."
 
Furthermore, Foxman said,"If he sees that his position of being who he is may contribute to the perception of anti-Semitism, whatís his solution to himself ó that he give up his money? That he close his mouth?"
 
Associates said Soros' appearance Wednesday was the first they could ever recall in which the billionaire, a Hungarian-born U.S. Jew who escaped the Holocaust by fleeing to London as a child, had spoken in front of a Jewish group or attended a Jewish function.
 
The one-day meeting on funding in Israel, which took place at the Harvard Club in New York, was limited mostly to representatives of Jewish philanthropic foundations.
 
After Soros' speech, Michael Steinhardt, the real-estate magnate and Jewish philanthropist who arranged for Soros to address the group, said in an interview that Soros' views do not reflect those of most Jewish millionaires or philanthropists.
 
He also pointed out that this was Soros' first speech to a Jewish audience.
 
Steinhardt approached the lectern and interrupted Soros immediately after his remarks on anti-Semitism.
 
"George Soros does not think Jews should be hated any more than they deserve to be," Steinhardt said by way of clarification, eliciting chuckles from the audience.
 
Steinhardt then gave the lectern back to Soros, who said he had something to add to his remarks on the issue of anti-Semitism. Soros then paused to ask if there were any journalists in the room.
 
When he learned that there were, Soros withheld further comment.
 
Mark Charendoff, president of the group that hosted the conference, said he was pleased overall with the Soros event.
 
"We found him to be enormously frank, candid and generous with his time," Charendoff said."I would be delighted if Mr. Soros would bring his passion, his brilliance and his resources to a range of different causes that are important to the Jewish community."
 
Charendoff is not alone.
 
Regardless of what they think of his politics, most Jewish activists likely would welcome Soros' participation in the world of Jewish philanthropy.
 
Though he's ranked as the 28th richest person in the United States by Forbes magazine - with a fortune valued at $7 billion - Soros has given scant money to Jewish causes.
 
Sorosí first known funding of a Jewish group came in 1997, when his Open Society Instituteís Emma Lazarus Fund gave $1.3 million to the Council of Jewish Federations, and when Soros gave another $1.3 million to the Jewish Fund for Justice, an anti-poverty group.
 
As much as Jews may not like what Soros has to say - at Wednesday's meeting, he called for 'regime change' in the United States and talked of funding projects in 'Palestine' - they are eager to get Soros involved in giving to Jewish causes.
 
"In many ways, this was an introduction for Soros," Charendoff said."He remarked to me how impressed he was with the quality of the people he met. We can only hope that this was a beginning of an engagement with the Jewish funding world."
 
Soros said he has not given much to Jewish or Israel-related causes because Jews take care of their own, so that his financial clout is better directed elsewhere.
 
Steinhardt tried to correct him on that point, saying the field of Jewish giving is not as crowded as Soros thinks.
 
"Even if we were a crowded field," Steinhardt told Soros,"I'm sure we could make room for you."
 
During his speech, Soros announced that he would support the 'Geneva accord,' an unofficial Middle East peace plan proposed by two out-of-office politicians, Israelís Yossi Beilin and Palestinian Yasser Abed Rabbo.
 
That plan envisions two states along pre-1967 borders and a shared Jerusalem, and is vague on the demand that Palestinian refugees from 1948 be allowed to return to Israel.
 
It was not clear whether Sorosí support of the plan would involve funding. Beilin's office did not return a call seeking comment.
 
 
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-->Hallo zusammen,

schließlich ist Soros kein Hohmann und kein Günzel und ganz gewiß keine braune Sau, die man um einen Teich jagen kann.

Soros kann es sich leisten. Was kann man ihm schon noch anhaben?

Wichtig aber ist natürlich nicht die Rede selbst, sondern die Reaktionen, wenn"heilige Kühe" geschlachtet werden.
Für mich sind die Reaktionen derjenigen Zuhörer, die zwar hören aber nicht zuhören, ein ganz eindeutiges Zeichen, dass diese Herren auch nur noch reflexhaft den Puck mit dem rauszuckenden Arm wegkicken. Selbst Kritik aus eigenen Reihen stößt auf taube Ohren.

Ich habe schon lange das Gefühl, dass sich vermeintlicher Anti-Semitismus selbst ernährt, bzw. durch unsorgfältig erkorenen Stellvertreter einer ethnischen Gruppe ständig am Leben erhalten wird und zwar als Mittel der Politik. Das hat auch Möllemann schon gemeint, sich bloß gefährlich ausgedrückt als eine Person, die in der Ã-ffentlichkeit stand. Ich kann da - als kleiner stocksorcerer - etwas flapsiger argumentieren und muß nicht fünf Lektoren bestellen, die mich aus der Schußlinie halten.

Wenn irgendwelche Vertretungen von anderen ethnischen Gruppen sich zu Wort melden, habe ich ganz selten ein Problem damit. Wenn der Zentralrat der Juden in Dtld. das tut, habe ich nahezu immer ein Problem damit. Und ich bin in dieser Hinsicht eigentlich als"blinder Bückling durch inoffizielle Verordnung" erzogen worden. Vorauseilender Gehorsam. Pssssst, Tabu.

Das Problem auf dieser Erde sind ohnehin lediglich die TABUS und die ungleichmäßig verteilten VETOS.


winkääää
stocksorcerer

-->Sich auf kritische Beiträge von Juden zu berufen, die mit ihren Volksgenossen ins Gericht gehen ist ein beliebter Akt des Antisemitismus und eine Schutzbehauptung, so der Tenor. Das ist, so werden wir seit Mullah Mölli und Poalo Pinkel belehrt, eine revisionistische Schutzbehauptung.

Kein Deutscher, der per se unter genotypischem Generalverdacht des zukünftigen, wie des vergangenen Massenmordes steht, hat daher ein Recht sich mit Hilfe von Requisiten aus der Trickkiste der braunen Stinkmorchel freizulügen.

Er kniee nieder mit Willy Brandy und stimme sein Mea Culpa an. Gehen Sie in das Gefängnis, gehen Sie nicht über Los, nehmen Sie nicht 20.000 Mark ein. Stecken Sie sich Ihre"Freikarte" in den A..sch!

Theo

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-->Hallo Theo,

>Sich auf kritische Beiträge von Juden zu berufen, die mit ihren Volksgenossen ins Gericht gehen ist ein beliebter Akt des Antisemitismus und eine Schutzbehauptung, so der Tenor. Das ist, so werden wir seit Mullah Mölli und Poalo Pinkel belehrt, eine revisionistische Schutzbehauptung.

Gibt es eine Form der Kritik an bestimmten Kreisen und Gemeinschaften, die nicht unter einen revisionistischen und antisemitischen Generalverdacht gestellt wird?

Natürlich nicht, womit diese Art der"Argumentation" als Versuch, sich selbst und seine Weltanschauung gegen jede Art von Kritik zu immunisieren, entlarvt wäre.

Es handelt sich somit um eine Art von Religion!

Warum soll ich mich an eine Religion, die nie die meine war, und ich obendrein bekennender Atheist bin, gebunden fühlen?

Die buddhistischen, hinduistischen, moslemischen und anderen Riten samt ihren Geboten, Verboten und sonstigen Tabus sind für mich, wenn der Zorn mal verraucht ist, doch bestenfalls ein Grund zum Lachen.

Warum sollte ich jetzt ausgerechnet vor dem Feldgeschrei der Gutmenschen und Käppiträger in den Staub sinken?

Eine schönere Einladung, sich um den Antisemidingsbums von jetzt an einen Dreck zu scheren kann es doch nicht geben.

Eine heilige Kuh würden wir doch auch nicht anbeten?

Warum also ein Mahnmal bauen und 6000 Gedenkstätten am Leben erhalten.

"In den Staub mit allen Feinden, die nur meine Kohle wollen", möchte ich, die letzten Zeilen aus Kleists"Der Prinz von Homburg" variierend, sagen.

Tempranillo

-->>Eine schönere Einladung, sich um den Antisemidingsbums von jetzt an einen Dreck zu scheren kann es doch nicht geben.

ja gute idee. diese obsession, von juden und deutschen gleichermassen gepflegt, geht mir enorm auf den wecker.

gruss

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