Lentas
10.12.2001, 20:05 |
Prophezeiungen - Sollog - Suitcase Nukes Thread gesperrt |
Servus aus Ã-sterreich,
berufbedingt leider oft nur Mitleser. Wollte dieser Runde hier meine Hochachtung aussprechen. Am 11. September war dieses Board meine erste
Informationsquelle. Auch wenn ich die Weissagungen des Hrn. Sollog bezweifle - er spricht von suitcase nukes, die in Amerika hochgehen könnten - diese Koffer A-Bomben gibt es und seit einigen Jahren fehlen den Russen doch einige dieser Bomben. Siehe Artikel:
Russia's"Lost" Luggage Could Be Deadly
by Eric Margolis
November 1, 1998
Call it the ultimate missing luggage story.
Last year, Gen. Alexander Lebed, Russia's former National Security Advisor, claimed more than 100 suitcase-sized nuclear weapons had `disappeared.' Another senior Russian security official, Alexei Yablokov, backed Lebed's allegations.
Lebed, now a presidential candidate, asserted Russia's military had lost track of the portable nuclear weapons, each of which can produce a 1 kiloton explosion, equivalent to 1,000 tons of TNT. A single suitcase nuke, placed in an urban area, could kill up to 100,000 people and cause enormous physical damage.
Russian security officials scoffed at Lebed's claims, blaming poor record keeping rather than theft or diversion. US officials claimed Libya, Iraq and Iran were the real nuclear danger, not mini-nukes. In fact, these nations pose a potential threat only to Israel. By contrast, Russia's missing nukes are a very real menace to US security.
Two months ago, the highest ranking officer ever to defect from GRU, Russia's military intelligence service, testified in closed hearings before Congress. The former GRU colonel, who defected in 1992, said he had personally identified locations in the US for suitcase nuclear devices that would be used in case of war.
The colonel admitted he had no knowledge any devices had actually been smuggled into the US, but said `it was possible,' because many of the weapons had disappeared from Russia's inventory. Meaning the mini-nukes are either missing - and possibly in the hands of terrorists - or secreted in the United States, Canada, and Europe.
The Soviet mini-nukes, described as the size of a golf club bag, were designed to destroy vital targets, such as military command and control centers, air defense headquarters, missile bases, communications nodes, power stations, bridges, dams, airports, and the St. Lawrence Seaway.
If one such weapon, hidden in the back of a delivery van, were detonated outside the Pentagon, America's military leadership would be decapitated.
The GRU colonel explained the mini-nukes were to be smuggled into the US the same way drugs were - by speedboat, light aircraft, or landed on the coast by Soviet subs. Soviet special force `Spetsnaz' units would retrieve the weapons and conceal them close to their intended targets. One key hiding place was Northern Virginia's beautiful Shenandoah Valley, located a short drive from Washington.
The colonel also revealed that during the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, the Soviets stockpiled suitcase nuclear weapons in Cuba without the knowledge of Castro, ready for use by special forces troops.
KGB sources also recently told me that at the height of the crisis, Soviet commanders in Cuba were authorized to launch intermediate range ballistic missiles against the US and Canada if communications links with Moscow were broken or jammed.
The US also developed a 1-kiloton nuclear suitcase bomb designed for the same tactical demolition role as the Soviet version. If the Warsaw Pact attacked westward, US Special Forces were tasked to employ the mini-nukes for behind-the- lines sabotage of Soviet command, logistics and communications. US Army field commanders were given release authority over hundreds of tactical mini-nukes in Europe, independent of NATO.
Some House Republicans claim the Soviets may have actually hidden a number of nuclear devices near Washington and New York City, where they remain. Some could still be active. Such simple, pure-fission nuclear devices may have a shelf- life of up to 8-10 years without refurbishing.
US security officials, who have been nonchalant about hidden suitcase nukes, should bear in mind the stranger- than-fiction case of a GRU `sleeper' agent who settled in Edmonton, Canada, the late 1940's as a supposed refugee from Ukraine. A decade ago, he turned himself into the RCMP, and showed them a large, trunk-bomb he had hidden in his basement. His orders: when a coded signal comes in from GRU, transport the conventional bomb in his truck to a main oil pumping station north of Edmonton, and destroy it. He had been waiting nearly 40 years.
How many other such sleepers are out there? How many have nuclear devices? This is pretty scary stuff. Not just for North America, either. Rumors have circulated for years that Israeli agents may have hidden suitcase nukes in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kiev, Odessa, Sevastapol, and Kharkov, not to mention Arab capitols, Tehran, even Pakistan.
The danger of terrorists getting their hands on a suitcase bomb is real, but lower. Arming the mini-nukes takes 30 minutes, the colonel revealed, and can only be done by trained specialists. The weapons are designed to self- destruct if improperly opened.
Unless, of course, terrorists or the Russian mafia manage to buy a nuclear specialist, or open the weapon's locks.A suitcase nuke attached to a drum of anthrax or botulism would be a hellish terror weapon, ideal for political fanatics or blackmailers. Defenses against such weapons are currently minimal, though the US is trying to develop senors that will detect hidden nuclear weapons.
We shouldn't panic about reds under our beds with suitcase nukes, but we shouldn't ignore this very real threat, either. Given the number of Soviet suitcase nukes still hidden, or unaccounted for, it seems probable at least one will eventually be used somewhere.
Copyright Margolis, November 1998
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SchlauFuchs
10.12.2001, 21:17
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Re: Prophezeiungen - Sollog - Suitcase Nukes |
Hallo, Lentas,
zu dem Thema hatte ich vor einigen Wochen etwas Material hier hereingestellt. Offiziell leugnet es die Regierung der GUS, daß die Koffer abhanden gekommen sind, und zwar mit der Begründung, solche Koffe gäbe es gar nicht.
Die Amerikaner sagen auch, es wäre nicht möglich, eine A-Waffe in diesem Format zu bauen, höchstens mit radioaktiven Material, welches wegen seiner kurzen Halbwertszeit alle drei Monate ausgetauscht werden müßte. Und leicht wäre der Koffer auch nicht.
Ich zumindest sehe das Gefahrenpotential gegeben und finde es gut, daß du nochmal drauf hinweist.
ciao!
SchlauFuchs
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monopoly
10.12.2001, 22:55
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>Hallo, Lentas,
>zu dem Thema hatte ich vor einigen Wochen etwas Material hier hereingestellt. Offiziell leugnet es die Regierung der GUS, daß die Koffer abhanden gekommen sind, und zwar mit der Begründung, solche Koffe gäbe es gar nicht.
>Die Amerikaner sagen auch, es wäre nicht möglich, eine A-Waffe in diesem Format zu bauen, höchstens mit radioaktiven Material, welches wegen seiner kurzen Halbwertszeit alle drei Monate ausgetauscht werden müßte. Und leicht wäre der Koffer auch nicht.
>Ich zumindest sehe das Gefahrenpotential gegeben und finde es gut, daß du nochmal drauf hinweist.
>ciao!
>SchlauFuchs
Kürzlich kam auf CNN ein Interview mit einem pakistanischen Journalisten, der mit Bin Laden in einer Höhle gesprochen hat. Dabei gab dieser vor Atomwaffen aus russischen Bestand zu besitzen, die angeblich in der Unterwelt für 10Mio US$ pro Stück erhältlich wären. Außerdem würde gäbe es rusische Experten in Reihen der Taliban. Über den Wahrheitsgehalt dieser Aussage war sich der Journalist allerdings nicht sicher.
Schaun mer mal
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beni
11.12.2001, 08:01
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Golftaschen Bomben gibt es sehr wohl |
Hi,
In dem Buch"unsere Bombe", erschienen 1988 bei Zweitausendeins, befindet sich eine Abbildung eines Modells der 23 Kg schweren Minibombe"Davy Crocket", das im National Atomic Museum, Kirtland Airforce Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico ausgestellt ist. Entwickelt von Theodore B. Taylor,"dem Mann der das nukleare Arsenal der USA miniaturisiert hat". Ist ja auch logisch wenn man denkt, dass es Atombomben gibt die die so klein sind, dass sie als Artilleriemunition verschossen werden können.
Gruss, Beni
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dira
11.12.2001, 09:57
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Fundstück |
<h2>suitcase-sized nuclear bombs buried in the United States?</h2>
<h3>Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999</h3>
WASHINGTON - A congressman who's a Russia expert says the FBI is afraid to
ask Russia a direct and potentially shocking question: Are suitcase-sized
nuclear bombs buried in the United States - including New York?
The FBI won't comment, but congressional sources said agents have already
conducted at least one search - in Brainerd, Minn. - for secret stockpiles
of everything from nuclear weapons to pistols, radios, maps and currency.
Rep. Curt Weldon (R-Pa.), citing the congressional testimony of KGB defector
Vasili Mitrokhin and Russian General Alexander Lebed, said the former Soviet
Union produced 132 suitcase-sized, 10-kiloton nuclear weapons, but has
accounted for only 48.
The others are assumed to be have been sold to other nations or remain
deployed at secret sites.
Weldon said FBI Director Louis Freeh, in a conversation two weeks ago,
acknowledged the possibility that hidden weapons caches exist in the United
States but has refused to perform anything but a perfunctory search.
Weldon said that until Russia agrees to turn over KGB files on the location
of the suitcases, it's highly unlikely the FBI can find the stockpiles,
which are believed possibly to exist somewhere in upstate New York as well
as in California, Texas, Montana and Minnesota.
"The administration is not asking the right questions," said Weldon, who has
visited Russia 19 times and teaches a class on the country at Widener
University in Pennsylvania.
"There is no doubt that the Soviets stored material in this country. The
question is what and where," Weldon told The Post.
He said he believes the Clinton administration is reluctant to broach the
subject with Russia for fear of causing trouble for President Boris Yeltsin,
who is already weak and with whom the United States has much invested.
Two weeks ago the House Armed Services subcommittee on military research and
development, which Weldon chairs, held a hearing at which a former KGB agent
and a British scholar added fuel to the buried weapons reports.
Col. Oleg Gordievsky, the highest-ranking KGB agent ever to defect, and
Christopher Andrew, a professor at Cambridge University and author of a book
about the KGB, both testified that they can't say with certainty that small
nuclear bombs are buried in caches across the United States.
But given what KGB documents have shown and the experience of other NATO
countries, both men said they believe that such caches exist.
Russian experts, including Stanislav Lunev, a former Russian military
intelligence official who defected to the United States in 1992, have said
the KGB had standing orders to blow up power stations, dams,
telecommunications centers and landing strips for Air Force One in the event
of war.
The suggestion that the Soviets, during the days of the Cold War, smuggled
weapons and other equipment with a military use into the United States is
not new.
But the startling charges gained further traction in September, when
prosecutors in Belgium confirmed that they had found three secret depots
filled with radio sets that had been buried in the 1960s.
Steve Berry, an FBI spokesman, last Thursday said the agency had"no
comment" about reports of possible suitcase bombs and buried weapons caches
in the United States.
But he acknowledged that FBI experts are familiar with the claims outlined
by Mitrokhin, who has passed scores of KGB documents to the West.
On Oct. 22, Weldon and Rep. James Oberstar (D-Minn.) sent Secretary of State
Madeleine Albright a letter alerting her to the charges by the KGB agents
and urging the administration to"aggressively pursue the Russian government
to identify all pre-deployed weapons sites in the United States, and...
eliminate such remnants of the Cold War."
Weldon said he will release her reply when he receives one.
Quelle
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SchlauFuchs
11.12.2001, 10:19
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Re: Golftaschen Bomben gibt es sehr wohl |
>Hi,
>In dem Buch"unsere Bombe", erschienen 1988 bei Zweitausendeins, befindet sich eine Abbildung eines Modells der 23 Kg schweren Minibombe"Davy Crocket", das im National Atomic Museum, Kirtland Airforce Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico ausgestellt ist. Entwickelt von Theodore B. Taylor,"dem Mann der das nukleare Arsenal der USA miniaturisiert hat". Ist ja auch logisch wenn man denkt, dass es Atombomben gibt die die so klein sind, dass sie als Artilleriemunition verschossen werden können.
>Gruss, Beni
Hallo, Beni
Danke für den Buchtipp, ich hoffe das gibt es noch. Ich selbst hatte ja auch geschrieben, daß ich es durchaus für möglich halte; daß diese Waffen existieren und in den Revolutionswirren meistbietend verscherbelt wurden, kann ich mir gut vorstellen. Daß sie auch eingesetzt würden, halte ich für weniger warscheinlich, die einzigen, die bisher skrupellos genug gewesen waren, Atomwaffen einzusetzen, waren die USA.
ciao!
SchlauFuchs
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shroom
11.12.2001, 11:13
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Re: Golftaschen Bomben gibt es sehr wohl - Das Buch auch |
Schau unter www.justbooks.de nach.
Gruss, shroom
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