-->Guten Abend


Bericht aus dem Irrenhaus im okkupierten Jerusalem: Geisteskranke am Politisieren.


Gruss
zani
<ul> ~ Israeli Minister calls for incinerating Damscus, Beirut</ul>

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Israeli minister calls for incinerating Damascus, Beirut


Occupied Jerusalem: 8 October, 2003 (IAP News)


An Israeli cabinet minister said Wednesday Israel should carry out devastating air strikes against Syria an Lebanon if Palestinian resistance groups continued to fight Israel’s colonialist occupation.


The minister, Avigdor Lieberman, said Israel should “incinerate Beirut and Damascus” in retaliation for resistance attacks in the West Bank.


“We should take advantage of our military superiority and visit Syria and Lebanon with destruction for their support of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.”


Lieberman had called for bombing several Arab and Islamic capitals including Tehran and the Aswan Adam in Egypt.


The current Israeli government includes some of the most extremist right-wing figures who openly advocate ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their homeland.

-->Aus dem Geldcrash-Forum:


hmm etwas eigenartig:...

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-->Guten Abend


... und dann linke Spalte runter bis Titel: Palestine and Israel; dann kommt's.

-->>Guten Abend
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>... und dann linke Spalte runter bis Titel: Palestine and Israel; dann kommt's.

Hi Zani,

Danke den Link hab ich schon:
http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20a...erating%20Damascus,%20Beirut.htm

Nur WER steckt hinter aljazeerah.info???

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-->>Guten Abend
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>... und dann linke Spalte runter bis Titel: Palestine and Israel; dann kommt's.

[/b]TOKYO (AFP) — A veteran Japanese diplomat, who was the country's ambassador to Lebanon until August, said Wednesday he was fired after expressing his opposition to the US-led war on Iraq in two official telegrams. Naoto Amaki, 56, sent the first telegram directly addressed to Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi six days before the US-led forces launched their attack on Iraq on March 20........ [/b]

-->Was meinst DU?


ABOUT THE ISLAMIC ASSOCIATION FOR PALESTINE

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2. Educating People about the Palestinian Issue. The Israeli occupation of Palestine has led to in-justice and oppression against Palestinians, and instability and troubles throughout the Middle East, and beyond. Consequently, the IAP works for the real peace that results in all forms of occupation are ended, all Palestinians in exile are allowed a return to their homeland, illegal Jewish settlements are dissolved, Jerusalem is ruled by Palestinians, and freedom and democracy are established for all resi-dents.

3. Rallying Efforts in Support of the True Solution to the Palestinian Problem. The IAP urges American Muslims, Arabs and Palestinians as well as all fair-minded Americans to exercise their important role in promoting a just and unbiased American position toward the issue of Palestine, and ex-posing dangers of the unconditional tax-funded American aid to Israel.

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-->Guten Abend Stephan


Das ist eine paläst. Nachrichtenagentur; sozusagen"pal. Reuters".


1) Aljazeerah.inf ist nicht Aljazeera.net; wie es scheint

2) spricht noch nicht gegen die Qualität; siehe die Artikel



Gruss
zani
<ul> ~ IAP.ORG</ul>

-->Guten Abend Stephan

>Was meinst DU?

Eine pal. Informationszentrum; sendet und arbeitet in US; Lagerwächter sprengen Infrastrukturen immer mal in die Luft, ist wohl noch sicherer in US.

bringt Info. aus pal. Sicht, auch und vor allem aus direkter Erfahrung, d.h. aus den Lagern.

Soweit ok

Gruss
zani

-->>Guten Abend Stephan
>
>Das ist eine paläst. Nachrichtenagentur; sozusagen"pal. Reuters".
>
>1) Aljazeerah.inf ist nicht Aljazeera.net; wie es scheint
>2) spricht noch nicht gegen die Qualität; siehe die Artikel
>Gruss
>zani

Hi Zani

Ist die Quelle Glaubwürdig? pal. Reuters???

Schreiben kann man viel wenn der Tag lang ist...
Ich habe bei IAP.Org diese Meldung nocht nicht gefunden.

Vor allem ist Vorsicht geboten bei Behauptungen. Wann hat der Minister das gesagt? Wo hat der das gesagt / Bei welchem Anlaß etc.
Ich kann da nix finden. Das ist doch keine Nachricht! Das ist eher eine Behauptung!

Im Netz läßt sich eine Behauptung sehr schnell Verbreiten. Und ich denke die USA oder Israel sind nicht die einzigen die gefakte Meldungen/Nachrichten lancieren!!

Hier ist nochmal die Meldung:

»[/i]Israeli minister calls for incinerating Damascus, Beirut [/i]

Occupied Jerusalem: 8 October, 2003 (IAP News)

An Israeli cabinet minister said Wednesday Israel should carry out devastating air strikes against Syria an Lebanon if Palestinian resistance groups continued to fight Israel’s colonialist occupation.

The minister, Avigdor Lieberman, said Israel should “incinerate Beirut and Damascus” in retaliation for resistance attacks in the West Bank.

“We should take advantage of our military superiority and visit Syria and Lebanon with destruction for their support of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.”

Lieberman had called for bombing several Arab and Islamic capitals including Tehran and the Aswan Adam in Egypt.

The current Israeli government includes some of the most extremist right-wing figures who openly advocate ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their homeland.«

Auch dieses Occupied Jerusalem ist sehr parteiisch. Objektiv ist das nicht!

Gruß

Stephan

-->Guten Abend

Nein das hier.

es geht die Frage: ist das eine seriöse Meldung oder Dreck?


<ul> ~ Hier</ul>

-->Guten Tag Stephan


>Ist die Quelle Glaubwürdig? pal. Reuters???
>Schreiben kann man viel wenn der Tag lang ist...
>Ich habe bei IAP.Org diese Meldung nocht nicht gefunden.
>Vor allem ist Vorsicht geboten bei Behauptungen. Wann hat der Minister das gesagt? Wo hat der das gesagt / Bei welchem Anlaß etc.
>Ich kann da nix finden. Das ist doch keine Nachricht! Das ist eher eine Behauptung!
>Im Netz läßt sich eine Behauptung sehr schnell Verbreiten. Und ich denke die USA oder Israel sind nicht die einzigen die gefakte Meldungen/Nachrichten lancieren!!
.........

>Auch dieses Occupied Jerusalem ist sehr parteiisch. Objektiv ist das nicht!


Glaubwürdikeit: das ist so eine Sache bei aller Info.! Man muss aufmerksam sein.

Objektivität: ist nicht nötig; er/sie sollen einfach berichten, was sie sehen; das machen die anderen dann auch -und keiner soll lügen; wir setzen dann die Perspektiven schon selber zusammen.


Gruss
zani

-->Guten Morgen Zani

>Glaubwürdikeit: das ist so eine Sache bei aller Info.! Man muss aufmerksam sein.
>Objektivität: ist nicht nötig; er/sie sollen einfach berichten, was sie sehen; das machen die anderen dann auch -und keiner soll lügen; wir setzen dann die Perspektiven schon selber zusammen.
>
>Gruss
>zani

Objektivität find ich schon wichtig bei so einer Meldung!

Die Frage ist doch: Hat Herr Liebermann das gesagt hat, oder nicht?

Mir fehlen da einfach ein paar [/b]Fakten für eine Glaubwürdigkeit, Wo, Bei welchem Anlaß etc. Wurde die Meldung von einer anderen Agentur bestätigt? Diese Aussage ist bei der derzeitigen Lage in Israel doch kein Pappenstiel!

Die Fakten müssen stimmen! Oder: »be first, but be right!«

Zusammensetzten kannst Du doch erst, wenn Du die Meldung bewertet hast. Bewertet hinsichtlich der Glaubwürdigkeit. Das muss in diesem Fall jeder für sich selbst prüfen ;-)

Vielleicht finde ich ja noch eine weitere Seite die diese Meldung bestätigt.
Bis dahin bleibe ich skeptisch

Gute Nacht

Stephan

-->>Bericht aus dem Irrenhaus im okkupierten Jerusalem: Geisteskranke am Politisieren.
>
>Gruss
>zani

Hallo

Noch ein kleiner Nachtrag:

Aus dem Archiv der Jerusalem Post:

Lieberman calls for major attack on Syria:[Daily Edition]

"...Meretz MKs Yossi Sarid and Ran Cohen condemned Lieberman. Sarid called him"a scary combination of Dr. Strangelove and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il." He said that after such comments, Israel has no place criticizing the incitement of Iran, Syria, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, or al- Qaida..."

GIL HOFFMAN. Jerusalem Post. Jerusalem: Oct 8, 2003.  pg. 02
People:   Lieberman, Avigdor
Section:   News
Text Word Count   447
Abstract (Article Summary)

Gruß

Stephan

<ul> ~ Lieberman calls for major attack on Syria:[Daily Edition]</ul>