-->Nibiru-Newsletter 17.11.03:
Radiosendung zum Thema Nibiru am 14.11.03
Am Freitag war ich zu Gast bei"Crop FM" in Graz (Ã-sterreich) zum Thema"Nibiru" (http://cropfm.mur.at/past_shows.htm#nibiru2), mit dem RealPlayer können Sie sich diese Sendung auf http://crop.mur.at/cropfm/ra/sendung_nibiru2.ram anhören.
einige ergänzende Links zum Inhalt der Sendung:
Kataklysmen:
http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/P...Precursor/possible_precursor.htm
http://www.apollonius.net/cataclysms.html
Bibelcode:
http://www.heinz-schumann.de/Code/code.html
http://www.biblecodes.com/biblecodes-2000.html
Anlage in Sibirien
Den erwähnten Artikel mit Dr. Valery Uvarov finden Sie hier: http://nexusmagazine.com/Installation.html, den Text habe ich unten eingefügt. Ein (leider sehr kurzes) Interview mit Dr. Uvarov geführt von Prof. McCanney am 6.2.03 können Sie auch auf http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/sh02-06-03.rm hören.
Manfred Zimmel
http://beam.to/Nibiru
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The Installation
An Interview with Valery Uvarov
Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 10, Number 4 (June-July 2003)
PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia. editor@nexusmagazine.com
Telephone: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381
From our web page at: www.nexusmagazine.com
© by Graham W. Birdsall © 2003
Quest Publications International Limited
Valley Farm Way, Wakefield Road
Stourton, Leeds, LS10 1SE
United Kingdom
Tel +44 (0)113 270 2066
Fax +44 (0)113 270 9672
Email gwb@ufomag.co.uk
Website http://www.ufomag.co.uk.
The following extracts were transcribed from a filmed interview with Valery Uvarov, of Russia's National Security Academy, conducted by Graham W. Birdsall, Editor of the UK-based UFO Magazine. The interview took place at the 12th International UFO Congress Convention and Film Festival, held February 2-8, 2003, in Laughlin, Nevada, USA.
Graham Birdsall (GB): What is your official title?
Valery Uvarov (VU): I am head of the Department of UFO Research, Science and Technical, National Security Academy, based in St Petersburg, Russia.
GB: This, then, is an official Russian government agency?
VU: Absolutely. I am answerable to two people above me. They are answerable to the next person above them, who is our President [Putin].
GB: What exactly is your remit?
VU: Our research efforts are divided into two parts. Firstly, we are constantly analysing data coming in from all over the world. We then extract what we consider to be the most interesting information through our database-which is yellow, which is red. This, then, is released to various departments throughout Russia. The other aspect of our research stemmed from asking the question: do UFOs exist or not? For sure, we know they exist, but what is behind their activity, their interest? This is the most important issue for us, and what we mostly focus our investigations on.
GB: There is active co-operation between NASA and Russian aerospace officials at a technical, scientific and maybe even military level. Do you liaise or have ties with organisations similar to your own overseas?
VU: I can tell you, truthfully, that just a couple of days before I flew to the United States I had a meeting with my... let's say, my bosses. And they said they are very interested in co-operating with other organisations... let's say, our friends in the West. So, I can tell you that this particular mission is at the starting point. I am charged with finding the right people. When this is done, and the next stage is activated, we can make some concrete steps.
GB: Earlier, off camera, you alluded to some important developments concerning the Tunguska explosion of 1908. For the record, can you tell us why you now believe you know the cause?
VU: It is not so much a case of belief; we know what caused it. It was a meteor, but a meteor that was destroyed by... let's say, a missile. The missile was generated by a material installation. We don't know who constructed it, but it was built long, long ago and is situated in Siberia, several hundred kilometres north of Tunguska. I can tell you that our investigation has revealed more than one explosion at Tunguska. Let me share something with you. The last time that this installation shot down a meteor was on 24/25 September last year. The Americans... they have three bases... they, too, noticed this explosion. [Editor's Ref: See New Scientist vol 178 issue 2399 - 14 June 2003]
GB: Forgive me, but some will say this sounds like science fiction.
VU: Graham, you know that when we talk about the truths that lie behind this subject, we only do so with those who have an understanding of the responsibility that goes with it. And you know that we are dealing with a technology much further ahead of our own-one capable of doing things that we cannot.
GB: Can you be more specific about the location of this installation?
VU: Look for the site of the Tunguska explosion. To the southeast is the very large and famous Lake Baikal. Beyond that, to the north, is a huge and barren territory covering 100,000 kilometres. Hardly anyone lives there. There are no towns or cities. Here is where we located the installation...
GB: Are you aware of strange stories or rumours concerning the so-called"Planet X"? If some new and heavenly body had entered our solar system, astronomers would surely detect it and declare its presence.
VU: I cannot speak for astronomers in the West, but astronomers within our Academy tell us we have nothing to fear. I have heard people talk about a rotation figure of 3,600 years for this planet, which is in a similar orbit to that of the Earth but behind the Sun. We know that this planet and the installation in Siberia are closely connected. Let me say that we believe that this installation is keeping that planet in a stable orbit. If that planet were to move, to shift orbit, the entire solar system would become unstable. Those of us in the Academy are sure that this planet is inhabited, and that this installation is designed to protect them and us. We are sure that nothing dangerous will happen. Everything is under control.
Our investigations have shown that the Earth has a pulse-a finely tuned frequency that affects everything, every living thing. Some 12,500 years ago, this pulse corresponded to 360 days of the year-study the old Egyptian calendar-but then an asteroid struck the Earth. We believe the orbit of the Earth was altered, artificially, to compensate for this. Our planet moved further away from the Sun, to a frequency pulse of 365.
This has taught us to believe that we have friends-friends who watch over us, silently. They did not allow then, nor will they allow now, any planet, comet or asteroid to strike and destroy the Earth. This, for us, is now absolutely clear.
Those who wish to weaponise space... to tell you the truth, all of us involved in this project feel a pain in our hearts. Here we all are, investigating this installation and some other stuff, material stuff, none of which was constructed by Russians or Americans but by someone else, someone from outer space. It saddens us when we think what could happen if weapons are put into space.
Let me speak frankly. This installation has a power system, an energy source. We have located this. It was during the conflict in the former Yugoslavia that we first noticed an increase in the output of that energy. For us, it was incredible, but we now know that this installation reacts to social upheaval and conflict. Part of our investigation involved searching through ancient records and archives, and then we came across the Echutin Apposs Alanhor [sic] texts. We call them the Alanhor, and they are at least 4,000 years old. They describe the installation, in scientific terms, as to what was taking place there. It's amazing.
I have visited the area twice. The first time our equipment detected strong levels of radiation. I have to tell you, it was pretty dangerous; we couldn't hide from it. The few local inhabitants of the area knew of the installation, of course, and they described it to us. They describe metal-like structures and drew them for us. We plotted everything on a map. But these people, their families, the animals, they were suffering from radiation sickness.
The radiation levels have been continuously monitored for the past six years, and now everyone-including the animals-has left the forest. Let me tell you something about the Tunguska explosion-something that has never been spoken of before. Two months before the explosion, every living animal fled the region. It was as if the installation had powered up to deal with the asteroid. With that came an increase in radiation. The same thing is happening now, today.
GB: Are there any plans to mount another expedition to the area and to visit the installation?
VU: The radiation is a factor but, yes, another expedition is planned for later this year. Look, we want to be open and honest about this. We welcome international participation, but the people we invite must be responsible in the eyes of the world. We want people who are honest, open-minded and transparent, who are eager and willing to co-operate and exchange and then disseminate the scientific data. I invite you, Graham, to come to Russia and visit the installation as an observer.
GB: I would be honoured. Thank you.
VU: You can tell people that we, Russia, have decided that it is time that other people should know about this, and not just a few.
Editor's Note:
This interview first appeared in the April 2003 edition of UFO Magazine, published by Quest Publications International Limited, Valley Farm Way, Wakefield Road, Stourton, Leeds, LS10 1SE, England, United Kingdom, tel +44 (0)113 270 2066, fax +44 (0)113 270 9672, email gwb@ufomag.co.uk, website http://www.ufomag.co.uk.
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-->The 'Installation' and Planet X
One of the speakers at Laughlin was a Russian called Valery Uvarov who has been a full-time Ufologist since 1989. He has been involved in various organisations devoted to the study of anomalous phenomena, and says that he heads 'The Department for Investigation of Extraterrestrial Civilisation under the Russian Academy of Sciences' (See Donald Ware's review of the 2003 Laughlin Conference ). Ware notes that Uvarov became the head of the Department of UFO Research, Paleosciences and Paleotechnology for the 'National Security Academy' of Russia in 2002. This sounds like quite a prestigious post, offering Uvarov much credibility among Ufologists in the West. The organisation is based in St Petersberg in Russia, but when one of my correspondents tried to reach Valery Uvarov there he was told that they had never heard of him, but that Uvarov might work for their Moscow office. Well, not according to Uvarov, himself anyway.
So although I have no doubt that Valery Uvarov is a Ufologist, I find that I am unable to verify that he is a bona fide scientist working for a major Russian scientific establishment. He claims that the Academy is an official Russian government agency, and his superiors are answerable to President Putin himself. This is important because Uvarov has some pretty incredible things to say. For starters, he stunned Graham 'Dubya' Birdsall by making off-the-cuff references to Nazis in Antarctica (See 'Secrets of Antarctica' pp4-8 UFO Mag Apr 2003). Birdsall interviewed Uvarov at Laughlin (See 'The Installation', pp60-1, UFO Mag Apr 2003) and quizzed Uvarov about his belief in an 'Installation' in Siberia that 'shot down' the Tunguska meteor of 1908. This interview has since appeared in Nexus magazine (Nexus June-July, pp59-60) and will be followed up in the next issue with more information.
Surely this is not orthodox Russian scientific opinion? Uvarov ofered no proof to substantiate his wild claims; no satellite imagery of the alleged site, no published or unpublished scientific reports...nothing. Instead he claimed to have visited the extremely remote location, even by Russian standards, twice. The fact that he seems to be getting taken very seriously is because of his claimed qualifications, and position within the Russian academic community.
According to Uvarov the 'Installation' is intimately connected with Planet X:
GWB:"Are you aware of strange stories or rumours concerning the so-called 'Planet X'? If some new and heavenly body had entered our Solar System, astronomers would surely detect it and declare its presence."
Valery Uvarov:"I cannot speak for astronomers in the West, but astronomers within our Academy tell us we have nothing to fear. I have heard people talk about a rotation figure of 3,600 years for this planet, which is in a similar orbit to that of the Earth, but behind the Sun. We know that this planet and the installation in Siberia are closely connected. Let me say that we believe that this installation is keeping that planet in a stable orbit. If the planet were to move, to shift orbit, the entire Solar System would become unstable. Those of us in the Academy are sure that this planet is inhabited, and that this installation is designed to protect them, and us..."
Taken on face value it would appear that one of Russia's leading scientists is advocating an alien base on Earth placed there by the Anunnaki of Nibiru. But there are some very big problems with Uvarov's claims. How could a planet in a 3600 year orbit be located 'behind the Sun'? Surely its position will remain relatively static against the background field of stars, against which the Sun is seen to move along the ecliptic. In a metaphorical way Nibiru could be said to be a 'planet behind the Sun', as in ancient North American Indian beliefs, in that it remains hidden for the vast majority of its lengthy orbit, but it could not be said to be physically located behind the Sun. It is certainly not in a"similar orbit to that of the Earth". No way. And if Uvarov is imparting knowledge given him by astronomers working for a prestigious scientific oganisation in Russia, then he is either misunderstanding what they are telling him, or else they aren't proper astronomers.
Secondly, how could an 'Installation' based on Earth be able to prevent an orbit shift of a rogue planet at the edges of the solar system? One could imagine how it might shoot down incoming meteors, but not ward off the attention of a whole planet. However, Uvarov does mention one piece of speculation that I would agree with, and might even have been gleaned from the Dark Star Theory site in the first place;
"If the planet were to move, to shift orbit, the entire Solar System would become unstable."
He also goes on to discuss a prior orbital change 12,500 years ago that changed the number of days in a year from 360 to our current 365.25. This, he claims, was the result of an asteroid impact, but offers no evidence to support the theory of such a recent collision. Again, this material does relate to ideas discussed on this site regarding the end of the last Ice Age, and orbital changes caused by Nibiru.
In this regard, I think it's fair to say that Uvarov is reading about theories relating to Nibiru on the Internet and extrapolating them into his own alien base theories. This seems more the work of an independent Ufologist than a scientist working for a recognised national research organisation like the Russian Academy of Sciences.
I then received word from a leading Russian author that my suspicions about Valery Uvarov are well founded. The organisation he is said to be involved with, the 'National Security Academy', is not a bona fide scientific body at all, and Uvarov's claims to be working under the auspices of the prestigious Russian Academy of Sciences seem equally dubious. This brings into question Uvarov's entire set of claims, and his assertions should be treated with the upmost caution. I personally wonder whether this questionable testimony by Valery Uvarov is the latest attampt at littering the field of Planet X research with outright disinformation.
Here's a an official Russian document about the 'National Security Academy' obtained from the tax office, which keeps information on the work carried out by all registered companies:
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This document was obtained for me by a Russian researcher who knows Valery Uvarov, but who wishes to remain anonymous for now. It is his opinion that Uvarov's claims regarding his career in Russian science are questionable, which would then bring doubt upon the remarkable speculations he has introduced to the alternative science media in the West. This document shows that the National Security Academy in St Petersburg have no interest in UFOs, or related research. I have written to Valery Uvarov via e-mail to ask him about all of this, and I copied the enquiry and this document to UFO Magazine, NEXUS magazine and to the organisers of the Laughlin conference in the U.S. To date I have had no reply from Uvarov, which has further hieghtened my concern. Here are his e-mail addresses should anyone else wish to also pursue this matter:
horus@mail.admiral.ru
ppiicufi@admiral.ru
In the meantime I would recommend that claims made by Valery Uvarov are taken with a large pinch of salt, at least until he makes some efforts to substantiate them.
© Andy Lloyd 13th April 2003, updated 20th June 2003
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