off-shore-trader
19.08.2004, 18:00 |
Google durchbricht gerade die $140 - es wird Zeit short zu gehen... (o.Text) Thread gesperrt |
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off-shore-trader
19.08.2004, 18:09
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market capitalization also irgendwo zwischen AT&T und Motorola.. (o.Text) |
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x Thomas
19.08.2004, 18:19
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Ich würde eher sagen, die Verbrecher ziehen gleich mal ein Splitt durch. (o.Text) |
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crosswind
19.08.2004, 18:21
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Wie bitte, bei mir Quote um 102 aber eben, so schnell gehts (o.Text) |
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FOX-NEWS
19.08.2004, 18:28
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Ruhig Blut die jungen Pferde... guckst du hier... |
-->Zu 140 ging da nichts. Keine Ahnung ob da schon PUTs gehandelt wurden.
sam
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crosswind
19.08.2004, 18:29
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CFD's gibts seit einer halben Stunde, ging aber schnell (o.Text) |
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EM-financial
19.08.2004, 19:32
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Kursziel 40 USD bis Mitte 2005 kann man das irgendwo in Deutschland handeln? |
-->Habe aus besagten Gründen:
- Kein Vertrauen in US Bankensystem
- Zukünftige Kapitalverkehrskontrollen
- IRS
kein US-Konto mehr und kann deshalb leider auch nicht shorten oder US-Options handeln. Deshalb bin ich auf die Zertis und OS in Deutschland angewiesen.
Die hätten heute sicher einen riesen Umsatz, wenn sie schnell genug ABN-Zertis oder sowas aufgelegt hätten ;-)
Habe vorhin auf CNN einen Analysten gesehen, der Google für gefährlich hält, da sie technologisch stark angreifbar sind. Früher Altavista, dann Yahoo und heute Google und in Zukunft vielleicht Microsoft der zudem noch die lokale Platte durchsuchen kann statt alles doppelt aus dem Netz zu ziehen ;-)
Mir scheint, als würde Google erstmal sehr schlecht aufgenommen. Wenn wir jetzt in den Internetstocks nach oben laufen würden, dann könnten gute Nachrichten sicher nochmal für ein bis zwei Wochen Stabilisierung auf hohem Niveau sorgen.
Eigentlich sehe ich sehr schnell Kurse von 80 USD und dann bis in 12 Monaten 35-40 USD. Das könnte man eigentlich gut handeln.
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Bärentöter
19.08.2004, 19:36
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War zu erwarten |
-->Nachdem ALLE sagten es gibt einen Absturz und herbe Anfangsverluste mußte es ja gutgehen. Mich würde es nicht wundern wenn das Teil eine Weile stabil bleibt.
Aktuell bereits 20% (!!) Gewinn für alle Erstzeichner.
MFG
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off-shore-trader
19.08.2004, 23:42
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Wie es zu dem heutigen Kursanstieg kam |
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Here's one reason for the heavy demand for Google's (GOOG:Nasdaq) shares Thursday: The company chose not to completely fill eligible bids in its IPO auction.
Some investors who had winning bids for more than a handful of shares were allocated 74.2% of the shares they had sought to purchase, TheStreet.com has learned. If that's true across the board, it suggests that Google priced its offering well below the level that bidding would have supported, helping to feed the stock's 18% surge Thursday.
To be sure, there's nothing improper about setting a low offering price that results in only partial fulfillment of winning bids. But the strategy is noteworthy because it helps give the shares a first-day pop. That runup is one of the things the auction route is supposed to eliminate, in the quest to help reap the greatest possible proceeds for the company going public.
Shares in the search-engine company rallied sharply with the long-awaited open of Nasdaq trading. The stock jumped to $100.01 on the first trade and traded as high as $103 and change before closing at $100.34, a sharp 18% rise. Each dollar an investor in Google's IPO makes in its first day of trading, in other words, is a theoretical dollar that Google has left on the table.
One institutional investor, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that his firm had been allocated 74.2% of the number of shares in its winning bids. Another investor, also on condition of anonymity, said he'd received 371 Google shares after bidding for 500 -- again, a 74.2% allocation rate.
That allocation appeared to be higher for smaller investors, perhaps because of rounding issues. This reporter, whose bid for five shares was accepted (see disclosure below), was allocated four shares, or 80%.
The 74.2% allocation suggests that the search engine company, which along with early shareholders sold 19.6 million shares in its initial public offering of stock, received enough bids priced at $85 or above to sell as many as 26.4 million shares.
That excess demand helps explain why Google's shares rose Thursday: For every 742 shares that the company and insiders sold in the IPO, there was pre-existing demand for an additional 258.
The allocation also indicates that Google could have priced its deal higher than the $85 per share price it set in the IPO. A higher price, which would have eliminated bids placed at the low end of the range of successful bids in the IPO, would have left fewer winning bids, and a higher allocation rate for successful bidders.
A Google spokeswoman declined to comment Thursday.
The allocation illustrates the wiggle room that Google and its underwriters have had in the Dutch auction format that the company employed in its IPO.
In theory, after collecting bids from different investors -- each for a specific number of shares -- Google could have set a stock price high enough so that only 19.6 million bids would have been accepted, enabling winning bidders to receive 100% of the shares for which they had bid. That highest possible price is known as the"clearing price."
But Google, after having received a healthy amount of criticism over the way it conducted its IPO, evidently decided not to squeeze every last dollar out of Wall Street that it might have been able to.
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<ul> ~ http://www.thestreet.com/pf/tech/georgemannes/10179223.html</ul>
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