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Re: Nemen bitte, N A M E N!!!

verfasst von Oldy, 03.02.2002, 21:24

>Ach, apoll,
>>..die gleichen Mächte/Kräfte, die die Fed. 1913 gegründet haben, wollen jetzt die globale Weltwährung und natürlich die globale Macht(Weltregierung),das hat mit USA,EUR,Japan nicht´s zu tun, alle sind Opfer, -die Mächte sind überstaatlich!!
>Ja?!"Überstaatliche Mächte"? Da das nicht"Organisationen", sondern per definitionem PERSONEN sein müssen, würden sie mich doch interessieren.
>Ich habe in Jahrzehnten Face-to-Face mit allen"Mächtigen" weltweit niemals einen dieser"Grandseignieurs" im Hintergrund entdeckt. Alles, was ich als"Mächtige" erleben durfte, waren elende, jämmerliche Pfeifen.
>WER also zieht die Strippen? Von den Fed-Gründern sind die meisten inzwischen übrigens pleite.
><font color="FF0000">Schau doch bloß auf JP Morgan! (Schöne Postings weiter unten).
>NENNE mir NAMEN (Einzelpersonen, bitte!) und ich gehe jedem Deiner Hinwesie nach.</font>
>Das habe ich nun wirklich noch drauf.
>Auf geht's!
>Gruß
>d.

$$$ Auch Pfeifen können das System benützen und später pleite gehen, weil sie eben Pfeifen sind. In der Zwischenzeit halten sie durch ihre Schergen die kleinste Opposition im Zaum. Siehe da ein Beispiel:

7.
US SS SHUT DOWN ANARCHIST COLLECTIVE

RaisetheFist.com, an anarchist/activist independent media/collective group in Los Angeles has been shut down. The house from which the group was operating its RaisetheFist.com internet service was raided on January 26 by 25 FBI, Secret Service, and Los Angeles Police officers, heavily armed with high-powered machine guns, shot guns, and hand guns. The raiding party seized all servers and political literature.

Raisethefist.com say they have been under extensive government monitoring since 1999. They claim to have received over 100 hits from the U.S Department of Defense in a single day. Even governments from the UK, Canada, Latvia, Belgium, Egypt, Finland and Australia are said to have monitored RaisetheFist.com continuously.

"It's not yet known at this point if the site will be back up. As of now, we have nothing. No more servers, no more network, nothing. My room remains completely ransacked. My neighbors remain shaken up by what happened," said the unnamed founder of RaisetheFist.com, who claims that RaisetheFist has been no more militant than a thousand other websites. More likely the reason for their being closed down is that they were progressive and getting somewhere, he says."Kids started creating clubs in their schools called 'RaisetheFist'. People started utilizing the collective as a powerful resource for the activist/anarchist community. The federal government knew the site had potential, that it was turning into something more than a site, but a strong collective utilized by activists throughout the world committed to social justice. And that's become a crime. Justice has become a crime. Freedom has become a crime."

Source: Los Angeles news agency, January 27, via Jean Hudon - golbalvisionary@cybernaute.com

Oder vielleicht auch so:

8.
ENRON WHISTLEBLOWER MAY HAVE BEEN ASSASSINATED

The conservative Daily Telegraph in London reported on January 27 that there are suspicions surrounded the supposed suicide of Clifford Baxter, the former vice-chairman of Enron, who knew the secrets of the firm's bankruptcy."At first it seemed a clear case of suicide. - - James Richard, the Fort Bend County Justice of the Peace, decreed that there was 'no evidence of foul play', saying there was no need for a post-mortem examination. Within hours, however, he had overturned that decision, prompted by the news that, in his final days, Baxter had confided that he may 'need to get a bodyguard'."

Baxter was believed to be one of the"whistle blowers" on Enron's financial mismanagement. He was a key player who spoke out against Enron's way of concealing hundreds of millions of dollars in debt. According to Baxter's lawyer, Baxter was going to cooperate with investigators. Oddly, the car in which Baxter's body was stopped in a turning lane between two medians in the middle of a major street, a rather atypical location for a suicide committed in a car, say those who believe that Baxter was"liquidated". The fact that the suicide gun was found in Baxter's hand is enough, they claim, to rule out a genuine suicide, as the recoil of a fired.38 will remove it from a hand deprived of any nerve control from the brain.

Source: Robert Cain - rcain2@carolina.rr.com - and http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...eet=/news/2002/01/27ixworld.html

Wer wurde übrigens von Enron finanziert? End welche nigger stcken da noch im wood pile?

ENRON NOT THE ONLY BAD APPLE

Excerpted from a special report on the Enron scandal by investigative journalist Greg Palast, in The Guardian, London, on February 1:

I guess I'm not a nice guy. But when I heard that Enron's former vice-chairman Cliff Baxter had shunted his mortal coil, I shed no tears. - - Maybe I'm missing something here, but this is the Baxter who last year quietly crawled out of Enron like a cockroach from a rotting log - then dumped his stock on unsuspecting buyers, thereby pocketing a reported $35m (£25).

- - Here's an example of how Enron's po' widdle stockholders, hero Baxter and chairman Ken Lay made their loot. Soon after California dumbly deregulated its power markets, Enron sold 500 megawatts of power to the state for delivery over a 15-megawatt line. Very cute, that: the company knew darn well the juice couldn't make it over the line, causing panic in the state - customers would then pay 10 times the normal cost to keep the lights on and traders could cash in. The federal regulator caught that one. Within weeks of taking office, George Bush demoted the troublesome official. Lay boasted to one candidate expected to replace the sacked regulator that President Bush had given Enron veto over the government appointment.

- - You want to cry for a power industry exec who came to an early, violent, end? Then let me suggest to you Jake Horton, late senior vice-president of Gulf power, a subsidiary of Southern Company. (Southern is one of Enron's cohorts in that fixed casino called the US electricity market.) Horton apparently knew about some of his company's less-than-kosher accounting practices; and he had no doubt about its illegal campaign contributions to Florida politicians - he'd made the payments himself. But unlike Baxter, who took the money and ran, in April 1989, Horton decided to blow the whistle, confront his bosses and go to state officials. He demanded and received use of the company's jet to go and confront Southern's board of directors. Ten minutes after take-off, the jet exploded. While the investigation into the plane crash was inconclusive, the company's CEO believed his death was suicide. He told the BBC:"I guess poor Jake saw no other way out."

- - Enron, founded in 1986, was the Rosemary's Baby of (the) satanic coupling of free-market ideological hoodoo and electricity industry greed. Enron played it faster and looser than the others, but it is wrong and dangerous to say Enron was one bad apple. It's the whole wormy tree of public services deregulation mania, which is rotten, root and branch.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/enron/story/0,11337,643422,00.html/
Via American Patriot Friends Network - apfn@apfn.org - who recommend Greg Palast's"Inside Corporate America" columns at http://www.gregpalast.com. For Enron Investigation resources begin at
http://www.c-span.org/enron/index.asp

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