Re: Wroking Group on Capital Markets, Exchange Stabilization Fund, Goldman + Co.

verfasst von black elk, 12.11.2000, 15:01

Hi dottore,

>Das sind per saldo Mätzchen, die erst ins Ernststadium treten, wenn die Fed anfängt, Indexkontrakte aufzukaufen, um den Markt zu halten. Da das natürlich rauskommt, ist dann das Großglockenläuten fürs Finale angesagt.
>Gruß
>d.

Wieso, das machen sie doch nun schon seit Jahren. Warum das ominöse Reversal am 18.10.? Kurz bevor charttechnisch Untergang angesagt ist, plötzlich 2x hintereinander ein 'Morning Doji Star' im Nasdaq, doch wohl kein Zufall. Die Leutchen kennen sich sehr wohl mit Charttechnik aus und kreieren untere Wendepunkte immer dann, wenn es notwendig ist.

Dazu nochmal ein Auszug aus Steven Williams (Cycle Pro) von 18.10. und der Manipulation (von mir aus auch 'Stützungskäufe'). Die Fondmanager setzen ja nichtihre eigenen Einkommensmillionen aufs Spiel, sondern das Geld der Anleger.

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"So far, this does not offer much argument concerning manipulation... so here is the part that ponders the debate. If the cash markets were continuing to fall while the SP was limit down, at least theoretically, the futures price would have continued lower also had there not been a trading limit. Once a limit down is in effect, trading continues as long as trades occur at or above the limit down price. Thus, while SP was limit down at 1324.80, anyone can buy futures at that price as long as there are other traders willing to sell at that price. During the time the SP futures were limit down, over 1700 contracts were traded, of which 326 were traded immediately following the 2 minute trading halt. If the SPX cash continued to fall after SP futures were limit down, why were so many contracts being bought? 1700 contracts represent $563 million in S&P 500 stocks.

Basically what happened was there were traders that were attempting to sell SP futures at-the-market while it was limit down. Anyone that wanted to buy was able to get them at the limit down price. If you want to force the market higher after trading resumes, all you have to do is buy up all of the at-market sells. As soon as they are posted for a sell, the manipulator simply buys them. When the trading halt is lifted and trading resumes, if there are no outstanding sells, then the market is at an equilibrium. From this point, only minor buying is required to force the SPX cash index higher. The manipulators must be careful not to tip their hand and buy too many in this manner because that would cause the futures to trade above the limit down price while the SPX was still trading lower -- that would be sloppy.

This was a very minor manipulation, but engineered to be as"stealthy" as possible. And, it worked"

black elk


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