- OT: Neutronenbomben-Einsatz im IRAQ - FOX-NEWS, 28.11.2004, 10:59
- Re: OT: Neutronenbomben-Einsatz im IRAQ - mvd, 28.11.2004, 11:23
- Red Mercury & Co - FOX-NEWS, 28.11.2004, 13:30
- Weitere, PISA-Unverdächtige Quelle - mvd, 28.11.2004, 20:32
- Ja, er lebt noch, er lebt noch... 'Iraq, Ramzaj and a Neutron Bomb' - Digedag, 29.11.2004, 02:20
- iraq-war.ru - mvd, 29.11.2004, 19:40
- Ja, er lebt noch, er lebt noch... 'Iraq, Ramzaj and a Neutron Bomb' - Digedag, 29.11.2004, 02:20
- Weitere, PISA-Unverdächtige Quelle - mvd, 28.11.2004, 20:32
- Red Mercury & Co - FOX-NEWS, 28.11.2004, 13:30
- He Leute, wenn Ihr so weitermacht, lesen bald alle mit, Verfassungsschutz, BND, - Ventura, 28.11.2004, 13:54
- Btw: das Geschenk von Amaso für Onkel Shub wird morgen geliefert.... - offthspc, 28.11.2004, 14:11
- ... fauler Apfel an Onkel Shub... - FOX-NEWS, 28.11.2004, 14:39
- Btw: das Geschenk von Amaso für Onkel Shub wird morgen geliefert.... - offthspc, 28.11.2004, 14:11
- Re: OT: Neutronenbomben-Einsatz im IRAQ - mvd, 28.11.2004, 11:23
Ja, er lebt noch, er lebt noch... 'Iraq, Ramzaj and a Neutron Bomb'
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>Vor allem passt es so gut ins Bild von dem, was dort gegen Ende des"offiziellen" Krieges geschehen ist. Erinnert ihr euch noch daran, wie überascht alle Welt war, daß die US-Truppen ganz plötzlich ungehindert durch Bagdad fahren konnten, obwohl sie am Tag zuvor noch in heftige Kämpfe verwickelt waren? Und an den geheimnisvollen Besuch von Condoleezza Rice in Moskau just in diesen Tagen?
>Habt ihr damals auch die exakten Berichte der Gruppe um Ramzaj mitgelesen, der jeden Tag einen umfassenden Bericht zur Lage im Irak postete? Diese hier meine ich:
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,931084,00.html
>Leider sind diese Dokumente nicht mehr online,...
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Iraq, Ramzaj and a Neutron Bomb
By: TerraHertz on: 20.10.2004 [15:49 ]
An interesting connection between the ceasation of the Ramzaj reports, and events at the Battle of Baghdad Airport, in April 2003. Also a summary of alternative Iraq War news sources.
At the beginning of the Iraq war, http://www.aeronautics.ru (by Venik) carried English translations of detailed war reports said to originate indirectly from the Russian GRU. The first of these was on March 23, 2003, and is still available at http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news066.htm (as are all the rest, but linked sequentially, with apparently no master index.) These were derived from intercepts of US communications by Russian military signals groups, and were edited extracts of the Russian (private?) analysis of US operations.
Later, another site (www.iraqwar.ru - since defunct) also made available English translations, and attributed the reports to 'the Ramzaj group'. This site included an annonymous user comment forum, where many interesting details surfaced.
In Oct 2004 the Ramzaj reports plus some historical commentary have been reposted at
http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=27229 (part 1)
http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=27346 (part 2)
On April 8, 2003, during latter stages of the Battle of Bagdad, the Ramzaj reports ceased, citing loss of information sources. Sometime after that, iraqwar.ru went off the net. There does not appear to be any currently online copy of its article and forum database. However the
GRU/Ramzaj reports are still archived in many places on the net. For eg:
http://www.serendipity.li/iraqwar/war_reports.htm as well as still at Venik's http://www.aeronautics.ru (though apparently with no link from the index page there.)
So, historically, we have detailed coverage of the Iraq war for the periods:
GRU/Ramzaj reports: March 23rd, 2003 to April 8, 2003.
Gap- no coverage: April 9th 2003, to October 29th, 2003.
Iraqi resistance reports: October 30th, 2003 to the present.
Now we know more about the Battle of Baghdad Airport, which began on Friday night, April 4th, 2003, and involved the near complete annihilation of the US 3/7 Cavalry. At that time mainstream media covered these these events with a great deal of confusion and contradiction, and no mention of major US losses. The US then apparently counter attacked the Iraqi defenders at the airport, using a single neutron bomb, which wiped out all resistance. Of course this was not mentioned by the media at all.
See http://iecolumnists.expressindia.com/full_column.php?content_id=46449
http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/02/1669628.php
(and others;Google: neutron baghdad airport)
Its not clear exactly what date and time this was done. Likely in the range April 6th to 8th, 2003. This is perhaps the very first time a tactical nuclear weapon has been used in a battlefield situation, unless rumours of nukes used by the USA in Afghanistan can be verified.
At the time the Ramzaj reports ceased so suddenly, their stated reason didn't seem to provide an adequate explanation for the halt. Now perhaps we can make a more informed guess. The Russians knew the US had used a tactical nuclear weapon in Iraq. A public accusation from a Russian quasi-official source, that the USA had used a nuclear weapon in Iraq, would have placed the Russian government in a very difficult diplomatic position. The Ramzaj reports were attempting to stand out by their truth in a sea of lies, but could now either lie, or admit that Russia knew, or cease.
They chose to cease operation.
One line from their brief farewell notice on 8th April reads:"... we do not have the right to reveal classified, 'top secret' information."
Now we know what that information was.
TerraHertz
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Original-Link: http://www.iraq-war.ru/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=27537
Und der ganze Holzmi.. ähh Ramzaj: http://www.serendipity.li/iraqwar/war_reports.htm
Digedag

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