- Staatsschuldenexplosion in GB - ueber 100 % des BIP? - dottore, 01.08.2006, 10:14
- Frage zur Verbriefung von Pensionverpflichtungen - Zandow, 01.08.2006, 10:52
- Andersrum? (mL) - Zandow, 01.08.2006, 11:00
- Warum - Golden Boy, 01.08.2006, 11:21
- Re: Staatsschuldenexplosion in GB - ueber 100 % des BIP? - weissgarnix, 01.08.2006, 11:36
- Re: klasse Info, danke! (o.Text) - - Elli -, 01.08.2006, 11:55
- Staatsschuldenexplosion in GB - ueber 100 % des BIP? - prinz_eisenherz, 01.08.2006, 17:35
- Re: Staatsschuldenexplosion in GB - ueber 100 % des BIP? - weissgarnix, 01.08.2006, 17:38
- Re: Staatsschuldenexplosion in GB - Konsequenzen - André, 02.08.2006, 09:29
- Wenn ich mich recht erinnere, - XERXES, 01.08.2006, 12:33
- Auch die Immo-preise sind für"normalsterbliche" Briten nicht mehr zu stemmen! - Der Einarmige Bandit, 01.08.2006, 17:11
- Jau, einer geht noch, einer geht noch rein! - Elmarion, 01.08.2006, 17:26
- Re: Auch die Immo-preise sind für"normalsterbliche" Briten nicht mehr zu stemmen! - weissgarnix, 01.08.2006, 17:29
- Staatsschuldenexplosion in den USA, bis zu +30% des BIP alleine in 2005 - Sorrento, 08.08.2006, 17:09
- Frage zur Verbriefung von Pensionverpflichtungen - Zandow, 01.08.2006, 10:52
Staatsschuldenexplosion in GB - ueber 100 % des BIP?
-->Hi,
die Briten wollen die staatlichen Pensionsverpflichtungen endlich in die allgemeine Staatsverschuldung buchen. Vorbildlich. Von so was ist die BRD noch weit entfernt.
Die Schulden sind"unfundiert", Klartext: Sie muessen aus Steuern finanziert werden. Dabei ergeben sich interessante Aspekte, wie aus dem DT zu entnehmen (Auszuege):
National debt may soar above (pounds) 1,000bn
By Edmund Conway, Economics Editor
The national debt could swell to well over (pounds) 1,000bn if the Government goes ahead with a plan to incorporate the huge public sector pensions liability in its accounts.
The proposal, which is presently under consideration, would obliterate one of Gordon Brown's key borrowing rules - that public sector debt cannot exceed 40pc of gross domestic product [ aah!] - as it would push the debt to almost 100pc of GDP.
It would also focus attention on the state's pensions deficit, which is unfunded and is therefore paid out of future taxes.
The plans are being considered by the Office for National Statistics, together with their counterparts overseas. They are looking at including everything the UK owes in retirement benefits to state workers in future debt figures.
With the net debt standing at 478.6bn and the pensions liability amounting to 530bn [!] at the latest estimate last year, the decision would instantly catapult national debt above the 1,000bn mark.
But pension experts think the Government's estimate of its pensions deficit may understate the true size of its liabilities.
According to Stephen Yeo, of Watson Wyatt, the pensions black hole [!] could be as big as 960bn.
[...]
Peter Spencer, economic adviser to the Ernst & Young Item Club, said:"These kind of figures are obviously going to be highly contentious, because the sheer size shows the scale of transfer from our children to us.
"We are basically dipping our hands into their pockets with these pensions liabilities. But this is only the tip of the inter-generational iceberg.
[Auch die Aktiva verdampfen...:]
"Also, what about our claims on natural resources, such as the North Sea, which we are effectively depleting at a rapid rate?
[Und Umwelt-Passiva sind auch noch da...:]
"Then there's the environment, which we are systematically degrading - the most obvious cause being cheap flights."
[...]
Martin Weale, director of the National Institute of Economic and Social Research, warned that the plan may struggle to get off the ground due to the immensely complex differences in the way various European countries - particularly the French - calculate their pension deficits.
"Maybe the European Commission is keen on the idea because it wants to frighten countries with big liabilities," he said.
[Da steht der Privatsektor nicht nach...]
The public sector is not the only one with large deficits. The pension regulator's first annual report, published yesterday *), estimated that the UK's top 350 listed companies have a combined deficit of between 250bn and 350bn.
*) Uebersicht und Details
Wuerden die Zahlen fuer die BRD (Bund, Laender, Kommunen) in einem aehnlichen Verhaeltnis zur bereits ausgewiesenen Staatsschuld liegen, koennte die deutsche (tatsaechliche) Staatsverschuldung die 3-Billionen-Grenze locker reissen.
Mal sehen, wie sich Bruessel verhaelt und ob und wie der deutsche Staat aus der Deckung kommt.
Gruss!

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